asscreedkinkmeme ([personal profile] asscreedkinkmeme) wrote2013-05-13 07:24 pm
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Kink Meme - Assassin's Creed pt. 6

Assassin's Creed Kink Meme pt.6
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≈ Comment anonymously with a character/pairing and a kink/prompt.

≈ Comment is filled by another anonymous with fanfiction/art/or any other appropriate medium.

≈ One request per post, but fill the request as much as you want.

≈ The fill/request doesn't necessarily need to be smut.

≈ Don't flame, if you have nothing good to say, don't say anything.

≈ Have a question? Feel free to PM me.

≈ Last, but not least: HAVE FUN!

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A call for mercy and coherence

(Anonymous) 2014-05-25 04:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Hello,

I’m posting this here, to call you to mercy and coherence. I used to be here (and many other forums) almost every day, readily reading post after post and one story after another. But after sometime I came to the conclusion that I was an hypocrite.

I began to reflect about this site and it’s content (NOTE: SOME OF IT, I am aware not all stories are like that). If something like this (I mean rape, incest, sexual slavery, mind control, etc) happened to me, would I be happy? I don’t think so, no. Would I be happy that it happened to other people? Not at all, not even a person I disliked. So then WHY I was here reading this? How could I enjoy it?

Do you know that mind control really exist, like, for real? Have you read about MK Ultra? That there are people really suffering sexual slavery, who have serious identity problems, who don’t know who they are? Those people are being tortured, they can’t reach their families, or maybe their family was the one that has done this to them. I can’t really imagine how much this people is suffering. But we don’t have to go too far and extreme! How about something more common? How about abuse? Rape? Incest? Torture? Personally, I wouldn’t be glad to be in those situations.

Then why do we seek what we hate? Why do we enjoy it? Now, I am directing my speech-thing to average people who really do hate this stuff. If you are a masochist, have a mental illness or you DO enjoy this things, condone them and would practice them anytime (or have been a victim), then please be not offended I am not directing this to you. I am not in your situation so I can’t really know. But I am guessing at least ONE person here would not like to be in this type of situations or inflict them on someone else in real life. So why read, write and ask for stories about it? Was the Roman Circus nice? Was it humane? Was it approvable? This is the same thing! Because even if its not real people, our intentions are the same! To enjoy the adrenaline and emotions without being hurt or responsible for anything!

I am saying this to you because I really think that incoherence makes people unhappy and I don’t want you to be so. If we believe in the good thing, but act not on it, live by it, surely we will be unhappy. I am certain of that.

So, in short: If you would be glad that your (hypothetical) own son or daughter would be a victim of rape, incest, mind control, abuse, torture, etc. and/or would be ready to participate in that, then this message is not directed to you. But if your answer is not, please reflect and allow yourself a life free of this in every way, including fiction.

I hope you don’t get offended, as it is not my intention. I know this speech-thing is very simplistic in comparison to all of the situations of everyone here but, I am willing to give it a try.

As sincerely as I can,
Ex-kinkmeme user.

Re: A call for mercy and coherence

(Anonymous) 2014-05-25 05:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I just wish the mod was still around so that they could delete this self-righteous, kink-shaming rant from someone who doesn't understand such basic concepts as reality doesn't equal fiction and don't like, don't read.

Re: A call for mercy and coherence

(Anonymous) 2014-05-25 07:00 pm (UTC)(link)
When I joined this meme, I was disgusted. Over time, I learned to ignore the stories. And then I started reading them.
I thought "It's just a fictional character. It doesn't matter because it's not happening to anyone in real life."
And then I almost got raped and realized how horribly desensitized I'd become. Isn't that sad? It took an almost rape to make me realize what exactly I was reading. This is a real problem, but I never said anything because I thought I'd be hated and banned from the meme and fandom. This really extends to all fandoms, though. I'm not saying "End it, you foul sum!" I'm saying "Be aware of what you're asking."
I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be all wet and wanting if I was watching someone get raped. Or in sexual slavery. Or any of the things you addressed.
And to the anon who just commented:
Fuck.
You.
This is not self righteous. This is someone realizing that a lot of the things we ask for are honestly somewhat disturbing, and happening every day.
This is not kink shaming. This is a glimpse into fucking reality, you insensitive bastard. If you don't like it, then go, and continue being a blind assed douchebag. But don't you ever call this kink-shaming.
Yes. Reality DOESN'T equal fiction, but it still happens. And this OP was only trying to bring that goddamn fact to your attention, you nitwit. People write fiction about war. It still happens, every day, and lives are lost, families broken. People write fiction about rape and sexual abuse. It still happens, every day, shattering minds and destroying wills. A friend of mine has been in therapy for nine years because she still isn't over her rape. Five of my friends have committed suicide because of abusive husband and wives.
Obviously, just as writing fiction about it doesn't stop it from happening, "don't like, don't read" doesn't dismiss the fact that IT HAPPENS. I'm pretty goddamn sure your opinion would at least change a little lest something on that list happened to you.
Good day.

Re: A call for mercy and coherence

(Anonymous) 2014-06-12 07:43 am (UTC)(link)
Heya bitchy, you have a right to your opinion as does anon above you. But don't come here with this attitude of yours like you are absolutely right and they are absolutely wrong. This is a place where writers and readers come together to explore situations. Writing about rape, incest, and other horrible situations is not condoning any of the acts, and it's not promoting acceptance. And for someone to come here and deliberately say "no what you're doing here is wrong and I'd like you to stop". Well fuck that, no. I do what I please, as do all the other writers and readers here. We know what we're doing and what we're asking. Duh.

Your friend got raped and is in therapy? That's terrible. It actually is horrible and I feel sorry for them. But that has nothing NOTHING to do with this forum.

So get off your high horse and enjoy the fruits of writers' labours. Or what exactly are you doing here?

Re: A call for mercy and coherence

(Anonymous) 2014-06-12 08:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey, guys! Can we all stop fighting for one second?
As proven below, this post was just some travelling troll. As much as I love to bicker, let's stop feeding the trolls. The OP gave one comment and is probably sitting in a hole somewhere giggling about how worked up we all got.
Now. We've said it once and we can say it again: this meme is for discovering your own kinks and letting them grow. Some are nasty, some illegal, some painful, some just plain strange. We all also have a right to our opinion. HighHorse!anon, you are right. Under highHorse!anon, you are also right. You're right by your own morals.
(But HighHorse!anon, don't act like you're right by another person's morals, because guess what, you aren't.)
Now can we all please stop this useless bickering and move on? Don't get me wrong, this is an important and dark topic, but our sexual turn-ons and fantasies are our own, and just because someone says "That's wrong and I don't like it, so you need to stop" doesn't mean we have to listen. Nothing is true, Everything is permitted, am I right? There are greener pastures that we could debate on, so let's cut off the water and leave this one for good, hm?

Re: A call for mercy and coherence

(Anonymous) 2014-05-25 07:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Dear everyone:

This is a kink meme. Yes, this means we get some really nasty shit. Rape, incest, gore, murder, you name it. And this meme is even one of the tamer ones I've met... But, the very premise of these kinkmemes are some of these things. This is where we can explore and request the kind of things that, elsewhere, might get the police called on us - just for safety. That is why the kinkmeme is anomynous. It can, in fact, be called as much experimentation with our own sexualities and self-understandings as when we had that first night under the blanket where we realised the stuff down below was for more than pee and poop.

However, no one forces you to be here.

Yes, rape is a horrible thing. But it is still a kink (fun fact: one of the most frequent sexual fantasies is to be taken by force - aka raped - the other is usually prostitutional sex of some sort).

Does rape/brainwashing/sexual slavery/etc happen in real life? Yes. Is it horrible? Yes, yes, and triple yes. Should we try to prevent it in real life? FUCKING YES, WE SHOULD! But is it also a kink? Yes.

And therein lies the paradox. And, again, why the kinkmeme is anomynous. Compare it to why people slow down to stare at a particularily bloody carwreck - we are fascinated by the grotesque and the forbidden. And what is more grotesque than things that we are secretly horrified by?

And this is why there is also the "no kink-shaming" rule. Because, yes, a lot of the kinkmeme prompts are horrible. But this is where we can have those prompts. This is where authors of all walks of life, amateur and published, famous and not, can explore details that they might not otherwise even dare approach.

So, again:

No one forces you to be here.

No one forces you to read the prompts, or make any.

There are other communities; safe, sane, consensual. There's even purely fluffy, asexual communities.

But let us have our dirty little secret here. Because this is where we can share our darkest thoughts and desires, and sometimes - just sometimes - see them put into stories by someone who wants to dance with the macabre.





Re: A call for mercy and coherence

(Anonymous) 2014-05-26 02:42 am (UTC)(link)
I agree. For example, take a look at horror genre authors. They write about murders and things that are like whoaholyshitwahttttttnoooo, but it's fiction. Pretty sure Stephen King isn't going to go murdering the next fifty people. Murder is horrible. Rape is horrible. Cutting someone's body into fifty parts and cannibalizing it slowly while they are still alive is horrible. There is a line between reality and fiction. When we watch movies such as "Saw" and "Texas Chainsaw Massacre", we understand those things. We know we will not grab a chainsaw or fuck people over by playing insane mind games. The above anon is correct in his/her/their justification.
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Re: A call for mercy and coherence

[personal profile] halberdier 2014-05-26 07:24 pm (UTC)(link)
As much as I feel for you in your situation, this is an Anonymous kink meme wherin we are allowing ourselves to explore the darker side of our own psyches in a safe environment. Non-con is one of my squicks for the very reasons you have listed, and so if I prompt I request that there be none in any fills. I skip over the rape!fics for very good reason: I will be triggered. But I allow the other users of the meme who have non-con as a kink to do their own thing.

I also feel I ought to point out that rape and non-con is canon in the Assassin's Creed canon. Maria Auditore was raped when Giovanni, Federico and Petruccio were executed. One of the Multiplayer characters in Brotherhood murdered Courtesans until Ezio showed up and gave him the pointy end of the Hidden Blade. It is within the spirit of the canon to which this Kinkmeme is dedicated to include non-con.

There are also some very fine writers who deal with the fallout and aftermath of rape in a very tender, sensitive and thoughtful manner.

I hope you can understand and respect that none of what we put on this meme is intended to be harmful or triggering and I hope you can recover from your own experience.

Re: A call for mercy and coherence

(Anonymous) 2014-05-27 09:34 am (UTC)(link)
First of all, I am a victim of repeated sexual assault. Reading and even writing about it is therapeutic to me, frankly, if it wasn't for it, I'd have gone suicidal ages ago. You claim this ridiculous diatribe is not aimed at me, so I wouldn't be offended, but you know what? I AM. Your post is far more triggering and offensive than any fictional rape story that I've ever read. FUCK YOU. FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU. WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE? A concern troll coming to a place where people can explore that which hurts them in a safe, welcoming environment and judging us for having this place. You're disgusting. Newsflash, sweetie, literature has long written and described the same atrocities that happen in real life. You'd know this if you bothered to read actual books. Literature is not just about roses and rainbows and good feelings. You are ignorant, offensive, unwelcome and thoroughly disrespectful towards people you know absolutely nothing about.

If you're an ex-kinkmeme user do fuck off and don't come back. Good riddance!

Re: A call for mercy and coherence

(Anonymous) 2014-05-31 03:28 am (UTC)(link)
Interesting. This is the second time I've seen this post. It recently hit up the Avengerskink meme, and was promptly screened. Pity it will not happen here.

Re: A call for mercy and coherence

(Anonymous) 2014-06-02 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
So it's definitely a troll? Figures :(

Re: A call for mercy and coherence

(Anonymous) 2014-09-15 09:37 pm (UTC)(link)
BAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Sweetie, you are so in the wrong fucking place. If you're looking to shame someone, try looking at yourself. Holy shit, so much judgement. This is the place for things that no one would share outloud. If not here, then fucking where? Hmmmm, bottling it up vs. release. I'm going with the latter. The Former tends to hurt those around us more.

Besides, I'd rather have someone write about it, instead of someone doing it. You completely crossed the line hun. You're implying-- no you're SAYING that by reading this we are somehow okay with out children or family members being in such a situation. OMG you are so fucked up!!! That's such a disgusting accusation.

This hurts no one. Get your goddamn soapbox and leave.

IF anyone reaches this realization, (and that's their prerogative,) then it'll be by their own goddamn power, not through shaming.

You are disgusting.

Re: A call for mercy and coherence

(Anonymous) 2014-09-16 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
Like we said, sir/madam, it's just a troll. OP commented once and left us to tear at each other like wild dogs over a hunk of meat. While it's a good discussion topic, I think it best we lay the comment to rest. Kinkmeme is a place for freedom and equality, whether our kinks be fluffy pillows and hugs and kittens, or the most hardcore, gore-filled, cringe-inducing rape scene imaginable, and I'm glad so may agree that kmeme is for exploration. Have a good day!
Plus... why post this shit here? RAPE is CANON in the games. Maria and Caterina, amongst others I'm sure. Some peeps just don't understand writers, do they?